Question for Shrub: What Did You Know and When Did You Know It?

This post is from Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo.

Since the release of the new Iran NIE on Monday, we’ve been debating just when the president and his key advisors know the basic gist of what the new report would show. Take them at their own word and they really didn’t know anything until just this last week. As soon as they knew, we knew, they would say.

Sure Mike McConnell mentioned something to the president back in August. But he had no way of knowing that this “new information” would dramatically undermine the claim that Iran was on the brink of going nuclear. And as the president said yesterday, “He didn’t tell me what the information was.”

Yet I’m hearing from a lot of directions that the basic gist of the report — that the Iranians aren’t nearly as close to going nuclear as we’d been led to believe — has been circulating at least in intelligence circles for some time. In other words, this NIE has been sitting either literally or figuratively on the president’s desk for months.

Now, along those lines look at this September 22nd post from a site called Swoop, which I hear is put together by some pretty knowledgeable DC insiders.

In our last key judgment on Iran, we noted that the main driver of possible military action has switched from Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program to Iranian activities in Iraq. This conclusion is hardening. Intelligence Community (IC) sources tell us that a new National Intelligence Estimate about Iran is near completion. This concludes that Iran remains many years – as much as 10 – away from a weapon. Thus, the WMD argument will not gain traction from the IC. Iraq, however, is a different story. Pentagon officials have told us that the stress on the Iranian threat to Iraqi stability in the Petraeus and Crocker testimony is entirely deliberate. These officials say that the Sunni elements with whom the US military has been cutting deals in Anbar province are violently “anti-Persian” and have convinced US commanders to see Iranian meddling as the source of destabilization. With Anbar representing the one clear success of the “surge”, the US military is highly motivated to protect it against the perceived Iranian threat. This was the source of Petraeus’ allegation that Iran is trying to build a “Hezbollah-like” anti-US militia in Iraq. A new US base is under construction near the Iranian border and checkpoints are being erected along roads leading from Iran. For immediate purposes, this does not change our assessment that military force against Iran remains unlikely in the short-term. But it does add a new source of tension alongside the WMD factor.

Just one blog post, definitely. But the key point is right there: word was out that the NIE deliver the goods for the Iranian bomb enthusiasts, that the “WMD argument” for war would not “gain traction from the IC (i.e., Intelligence Community).”

What it all comes down to is what the president says he didn’t know about until the beginning of December was already being chatted about on insider national security blogs back in September. Does anybody still believe he hasn’t known this for months?


Democrat Leads in Kentucky Governor’s Race

Democrat Steve Beshear Seems Ready to Trounce Republican Incumbent

My Direct Democracy, Jonathon Singer, Oct 31st

If you’re an incumbent Governor trailing your challenger by a double-digit margin less than a week out from election day, you probably would rather not see your numbers drop from the upper-30s to 40 percent to the mid-30s. But such is the case for Kentucky’s Republican Governor Ernie Fletcher, who is polling way down in the mid-30s in two new polls matching him up against Democrat Steve Beshear.

The newest poll shows Democrat Beshear ahead with 60% versus 35% for Ernie Fletcher.

It really just isn’t so good for an incumbent to average nearly 20 points down against his challenger. Something could happen between now and Tuesday, when Kentuckians go to the polls — but it’s not terribly likely at this point. What does remain to be seen, it seems, it whether the Democrats will get enough momentum out of this gubernatorial contest to make good on their very real potential to go after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell next fall.  Click here to read this story at MyDD (MyDirectDemocracy)


Test Post to Blog Watch

Values Voters are apparently having trouble counting votes.  Yesterday, Mitt Romney ran away with the field at the Values Voters straw poll, or did he?  Seems that better than 50% of the 1500 delegates attending the conference voted for Mike Huckabee.  So he’s the winner…right?  No it seems the Mitt Romney packed the internet vote which was included.  For a $1 fee, a Romney supporter could “join” the Value Voters Family Council and be entitled to vote over the internet.  And VOTE they did.


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